Civil War Fallen Son #1-5 [Mini Série]

Pas encore d'image, mais donc le perso est révélé et comme certains d'ici s'en doutaient, il s'agit bien d'Iron Man...

Un nouveau Cap à la fin de cette mini?

Enfin là avec le bouclier brisé derrière, moi il me semble que ok il cumule, mais ici il pleure aussi et avant tout le dernier héros mort en date...

Vu le titre ça pourrait sentir les remords et la remise en question pour Tony...

Déjà entre deux moi je reste sur Pupu (pour du provisoire bien sûr) après à voir...

Il serait temps...

je verrasi bien Bucky apres...

Arathorn X a écrit:

Un nouveau Cap à la fin de cette mini?

La mort de Cap c une histoire du Bru, une histoire qu'il avait prévu depuis le #1 de son run...Fallen One, c juste des Tie-In pour faire un max de pognon... donc si nouveau Cap il y a, ca va être dans la série Captain America....

je crois pas qu il avait prévu la mort... ce st avec CW qu il saisi l opportunité mais ca va dans le sens ou il voulait aller..(intw sur comicbookresources)

Oui c de cette interview que je parle, il dit qu'il avait prévu ca depuis le début mais qu'à cause de Marvel et de son Gros Event, il a été obligé de devancer "Death of the Dream"...

enfin, c possible que, j'ai peut-être mal interprété... j'ai lu ca vite... Mais c ce que j'avais cru comprendre...

en fait non
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=104256

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Ed Brubaker: Not really. I was at the big summit meeting for the last act of Civil War, and I don't think there were any serious suggestions that Cap should die in issue #7. My memory is it was something I floated as what I could do in Cap after Civil War's finale that would really stun people, and that would build off the buzz generated by Civil War. And then it was discussed for a while, about how it would happen, and who would kill him, and then the talk drifted back to the end of Civil War instead. That's how I recall it. But I read an interview with Joe yesterday, and he remembers a lot more debate about it, and he's probably right. It was a long time ago now and we were all exhausted, so my memory on some stuff is a bit fuzzy. For all I know, the initial idea was from JMS or Millar or Bendis and I just mulled it over until it became mine. But I know the facts of the story weren't discussed in much depth until the next summit, last summer, where we were planning the 2007 stuff, and at that point, Joe and Dan and David Gabriel all started getting more excited about it. And the input of all the people in that room impacted the story that I'm telling, and needs to be acknowledged. You don't do a story this big without getting a lot of people's okays and input.

But the way this idea evolved into what it is now came from looking at my options on Cap as Civil War was ending, and seeing what they were. The two obvious options -- a) Cap resigns, gets on his motorcycle and goes to find America, and b) Cap is in jail and on trial -- were things I felt had been done, either in Cap, or in other comics -- notably, I'd just finished a run on Daredevil where Matt was in prison. So, since I didn't want to do either of those stories, I looked at my outline for the next few years that I'd been plotting out, and decided to push up my big "Red Skull Strikes Back" storyline a bit, and tweak it to coincide with Civil War and its fallout and ramifications.

Then I talked it over with Tom Brevoort, and with Bendis, since he's the other guy writing Cap in New Avengers, who'd be affected, and then I started laying the groundwork for this entire "Death of the Dream" storyline, seeding the Red Skull's behind the scenes stuff in the Civil War tie-in issues of Cap. And from that point, there was a lot of back and forth about how this would work or not work and how we would do it, between me and Tom. And more recently, a lot of emailing back and forth with Jeph Loeb, who had a lot of really good points about how big this actually was and how to make it even bigger.

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EB: Not really. This storyline, in one form or another, has been building since issue #1 of Cap. The way it begins, with Cap's death in issue #25, is probably more huge than it might have been otherwise, and more of an event. I tend not to think huge or event, generally, but this warrants it. But even with all that, to me, this is just a continuation of the story I've been telling in Cap all along, and this is the next step. If Civil War had not come along, it may have taken a while longer to get here, and Cap may or may not have been killed, but this is all fitting into my plans and leading to some great things in Cap. I'm really excited about this book, just as much as I was when I first began it. I have said from the beginning that Civil War was a gift to me, and to Cap, because of what I'd be able to do after it, and it's really true. This story became better I think, than it would have been otherwise.

Oki mais bon ca revient au même...

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NRAMA: So once it was all decided that Captain America would die in issue #25 did it require any drastic changes of your plans as you had been constructing them for the series?

EB: Not really. This storyline, in one form or another, has been building since issue #1 of Cap. The way it begins, with Cap's death in issue #25, is probably more huge than it might have been otherwise, and more of an event. I tend not to think huge or event, generally, but this warrants it. But even with all that, to me, this is just a continuation of the story I've been telling in Cap all along, and this is the next step. If Civil War had not come along, it may have taken a while longer to get here, and Cap may or may not have been killed, but this is all fitting into my plans and leading to some great things in Cap. I'm really excited about this book, just as much as I was when I first began it. I have said from the beginning that Civil War was a gift to me, and to Cap, because of what I'd be able to do after it, and it's really true. This story became better I think, than it would have been otherwise.

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Cap may or may not have been killed

donc ca change au moins ce point qui etait pas prévu forcement....

Oui oui... mais bon j'aime ce que dit le Bru un peu plus loin... je vais prendre l'histoire pour ce qu'elle est...

Je la trouve pas top la couv

Magnifique couv avec mon heros préféré non franchement finch fait du beau travail en ce moment par contre le bouclier...il a souffert

Moi non plus.... en plus je vomis sur warbird alors...grrrr

Elle s'appelle plus Warbird, mais Miss Marvel et c'est l'une des plus fidèles à Tony , il l'a même récompensé en en faisant le nouveau chef des Mighty Avengers.

ca fait un peu dressage "c est bien!! voila ta recompense"

En quoi ça change de la vie active?

Miss Marvel la plus fidèle de Tony? Après spider-man on va sa marrer,comment va t elle se faire plumer elle?

Il est bien loin le temps où tony la viré des vengeurs, et que carol geulait après tony en pleine ville sans raison après se bourrer la geule et se battre contre Iron Man en détruisant un Avion. Ah...sacrée Carol,tu nous feras toujours rêver...