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Mars contre attacks Celeste member
Age : 48 Localisation : Paris Date d'inscription : 12/12/2007
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Mer 19 Déc 2007 - 10:43 | |
| il y a du lourd qui arrive sur cette serie et avec kirkman au scenario ca promet | |
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Génome X Amazing member
Age : 33 Localisation : France Date d'inscription : 16/05/2007
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Ven 28 Déc 2007 - 23:44 | |
| Kirkman quitte le titre apres le n° 93. | |
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Arathorn X Immortal member
Age : 36 Localisation : Entre Moselle et Alsace Date d'inscription : 08/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Sam 29 Déc 2007 - 0:14 | |
| C'est pas juste le break pour les épisode de Loeb? | |
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Génome X Amazing member
Age : 33 Localisation : France Date d'inscription : 16/05/2007
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Sam 29 Déc 2007 - 0:18 | |
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Arathorn X Immortal member
Age : 36 Localisation : Entre Moselle et Alsace Date d'inscription : 08/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Sam 29 Déc 2007 - 0:22 | |
| Si ça se trouve c'est Singer qui arrive enfin Bon à force elle est même plus drôle celle-là... | |
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Arathorn X Immortal member
Age : 36 Localisation : Entre Moselle et Alsace Date d'inscription : 08/05/2006
| Sujet: Départ de Robert Kirkman au #93, arrivée d'Aron Coleite Mer 16 Jan 2008 - 14:40 | |
| La nouvelle est tombée dernièrement: - Citation :
- Coup de théâtre sur la série, Robert Kirkman annonce son départ à peine 20 numéros après son arrivée..
A few weeks ago series editor Ralph Macchio and I were discussing what I would do after the upcoming APOCALYPSE story arc. This arc is something my run on the book has been building toward since I was given the regular writing assignment with issue 75 (issue 66-74 was supposed to be a fill-in arc). Everything I've done in the book thus far has been building to this and the thought of continuing after I'd completed my grand plan seemed like overstaying my welcome, frankly. I will have said everything I wanted and done everything I set out to do... so it seemed the time was right.
I think when it's all over people will see that APOCALYPSE is the perfect time to leave, a great way to leave my mark on the book and so I've decided to let that be my swan song on the title. In the end, I was hired for 9 issues and ended up doing 28 issues and an annual... not a bad run for a title these days, and I ALMOST... ALMOST wrote as many issues as Mark Millar did... and believe me, I did consider staying on just to break his record... but that just didn't seem right.
So there you go... Apocalypse is it for me! It was fun while it lasted, but I'm really looking forward to what's coming up next for me and I'm sure you'll all be hearing about that very soon.
-Robert Kirkman Plutôt étonnant à moins de 7 numéros du 100e anniversaire, et après quelques grandes arrivées ( Apocalypse, Stryfe, .... ) et un run qui a relancé la série elle-même. En espérant que la suite soit bien choisie... Source: http://www.ultimatemarvel.net/article-963-kirkman-quitte-uxm.htmlEt le remplaçant sera: - Citation :
- Orphelin de Kirkman après le #93, UXM retrouve un scénariste avant l'Ultimatum ; Aron Coleite, auteur notamment de la série "Heroes".
Le site IGN a eu l'exclusivité d'une interview avec le nouveau scénariste d'UXM, en annonçant la nouvelle en elle-même. Rien d'étonnant en l'apprennant par ailleurs, car Aron Coleite travaille en collaboration avec Jeph Loeb ( Ultimatum donc, mais aussi Heroes ) sur la série Heroes, ce qui a du faciliter les contacts avec Marvel!
Heureusement, Coleite est un pur fan des X-Men! Ayant grandi avec les mutants, c'est un rêve qui devient réalité pour lui. Et un grand plaisir de passer après les meilleurs scénaristes du moment sur la série..
Et on peut dire que ça rassure! Il regrette le temps où Wolverine n'était que dans une seule série, Kitty en costume noir, Emma Frost et Forge en vilain.. Un bon point pour UXM?
Evidemment on ne peut s'empêcher de faire des parrallèles entre Heroes et X-Men.. Sorte d'hommage? Difficile quelques fois de se détacher de ses inspirations.
Coleite a apprécié les 3 films sortis au cinéma. Avis classique ; le 2 reste le meilleur, le 1 est moyen et le 3.. Sans avis.
Son travail sur UXM est juste d'assurer un arc en 4 parties avant Ultimatum, mais connaissant bien Loeb il va pouvoir semer quelques pistes menant à l'Ultimatum.. Il va pouvoir utiliser tous les personnages, mais dans des situations jamais vues (?). Pas de vilains traditionnels ici, mais l'apparition de... Ultimate Alpha Flight!! Et il promet de tenir ses délais.
Il travaille également avec Loeb sur un autre projet pour Marvel. Sans autres détails pour l'instant.
A venir donc très bientôt! Source: http://www.ultimatemarvel.net/article-968-aron-coleite-reprend-la-serie.htmlJe l'ai souvent dit, le run de Kirkman est mon préféré sur UXM et j'adore cet auteur en général, mais bon c'est tout à son honneur de partir de lui-même parce qu'il n'a plus rien à dire et j'espers que son final sera une tuerie! Je ne sais pas ce que Coleite veut et j'ai un peu peur qu'il se fasse trop influencer par Loeb... J'espers que Bendis va bien reprendre du poil de la bête pour pas que Loeb nous pourrisse l'Ultimate Universe. | |
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Mythic Immortal member
Age : 45 Localisation : dans la noire partie forum, celle où vous viendrez tous tôt ou tard Date d'inscription : 08/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Mer 16 Jan 2008 - 14:51 | |
| on voit où les scenaristes ciné ou télé se font un peu de thune, ils vont écrire des comics | |
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Arathorn X Immortal member
Age : 36 Localisation : Entre Moselle et Alsace Date d'inscription : 08/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Mer 16 Jan 2008 - 14:54 | |
| A propos de la fin de son run, Kirkman parle un peu de son amour pour les persos des 90's: - Citation :
- Ultimate Evolution: He Loves the 90's
Robert Kirkman talks about reinventing his favorite characters from the 90’s to end his ULTIMATE X-MEN run
Some remember the 90's as a dark age for comics.
Exploding and then declining sales, burgeoning and then tumbling publishers, and more clones than we care to remember—we're looking at you, Spidey—made it a tough time for fans. However, when it came to the X-Men, the decade of Reebok Pumps and neon produced some major characters that would shift the mutant agenda for years to come.
ULTIMATE X-MEN #90 cover by Salvador Larocca During his run on ULTIMATE X-MEN, writer Robert Kirkman, who wears his love for the 90's proudly, gave birth to Ultimate versions of several of his personal favorites from that era. As Kirkman's swansong on the title with artist Salvador Larocca kicks off in ULTIMATE X-MEN #90, on sale January 30, he's got the X-kids doing a temporal tango with time travel troubles abounding.
As the final battle mounts between the X-Men, with wildcards Cable and Bishop apparently on their side, and the evil duo of Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister, we got Kirkman to take a breather and compare the mainstream versions of these 90's X-All Stars to his creations.
CABLE
Cable OLD SCHOOL Would you send your baby away to an unknown future if it meant saving his life? That nightmare became a reality for Cyclops when his son, Nathan Christopher Summers, became infected with a techno-organic virus and his only hope for salvation lay in the world of tomorrow.
However, and adult Nathan would return to the world of the X-Men as the mysterious Cable, coming back to the present armed with telekinetic powers and a hard as nails attitude to stop the schemes of his nefarious clone, Stryfe.
Butting heads with the likes of Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister, Cable has seemed to die and then return while trying to change the world for the better. Most recently, he returned from another brush with death to steal the only mutant baby currently in existence in "Messiah CompleX," unfolding currently in the X-Men titles.
Kirkman Says… "Badass from the future, total mystery man. Glowing eye, metal arm...guns that look like iron girders. Great stuff."
Ultimate Cable ULTIMATE Still a mysterious solider from the future, Ultimate Cable first appeared a more dastardly agenda—kill Charles Xavier. However, after seemingly succeeding in his mission, Cable returned to the future with a still quite alive Xavier, to whom he revealed his true intentions: building a stronger team of X-Men to face the evil headed its way.
However, this biggest difference when it comes to Ultimate Cable has to be his true identity, not as the son of Cyclops but as a future incarnation of the X-Man known as Wolverine!
Kirkman says… "I wanted to keep the cool things, but at the same time make things a bit more streamlined. I thought, 'Well, he's gotta have the arm, the eye and the guns…but what could make him cooler? What weapon can top all that?' Wolverine's claws [was] the obvious answer and our sprawling time-travel epic came from that. Cable is Wolverine."
BISHOP
Bishop OLD SCHOOL A supercop from an anti-mutant future, Bishop got thrown back into the past and joined up with the X-Men, legends in his time. Fighting for the side of good, his ability to absorb energy and fire it back has come in handy in many a mutant melee.
Bishop has been a reliable powerhouse and brash voice of grim reality on the battlefield. He's kinda like Cable, but with a jheri curl—or bald head nowadays.
Kirkman says… "Time Traveling bad ass number [two]. For me, he and Cable kind of go hand in hand."
Ultimate Bishop ULTIMATE The older, cornrowed Ultimate version of Bishop comes off quite different from his mainstream counterpart. Appearing in our time searching for Cable, he ends up forming his own team of X-Men that !include!s stalwarts like Storm and Wolverine following the "death" of Charles Xavier.
Fighting alongside his team, including a teenage version of his apparent future wife Psylocke (ew), Bishop smoked both Fenris twins single handedly to stop a Sentinel attack. We recently learned that Bishop in fact has some sort of secret alliance with Cable, so his plans remain shady at best.
Kirkman says… "Had to get rid of that mullet, man o' man was that craziness. Also, he had been introduced into the Ultimate Universe already, but I wanted him to be working with Cable, so I just had him be old. I think that changes his character in some very cool ways. Now he's even more of this sage-like leader. It really suits him. And y'know, if you want to kill the guy off, there's always his younger self in the present! Bonus!"
MR. SINISTER
Mr. Sinister OLD SCHOOL Few people have messed with the X-Men like Mr. Sinister. Responsible for mutant massacres and other acts of pure evil, the immortal geneticist will do whatever it takes to further his Darwinian goals of sadistic scientific exploration.
From meticulously manipulating the Summers family to masterminding the Marauders in "Messiah CompleX," Sinister has been the man behind the curtain in some of the biggest X-events in history.
Kirkman says… "Totally cool guy, always liked him...but looking back at him, he's a goth princess, right? I mean...lipstick?
Ultimate Mr. Sinister ULTIMATE Ultimate Sinister pulls a 180 on his counterpart as a buff, tattooed serial killer serving his Lord Apocalypse, a godly figure only he sees in hallucination…or does he?
Sinister executed himself after failing to snuff out the X-Men, but looks like he will rise again alongside his master.
Kirkman says… "Gotta throw a bone to big daddy Vaughan—that's [writer] Brian K.—since this guy was all his idea [and] the changes made to Mr. Sinister were all from his run. Just a few tweaks here and twist there from me...also, he's technically a zombie now. I'm definitely in a rut."
APOCALYPSE
Apocalypse OLD SCHOOL The name says it all.
Arguably the first mutant ever, the being once called En Sabah Nur has his origins in ancient Egypt, where he bonded with Celestial technology to become the unstoppable force known as Apocalypse.
Apocalypse's "survival of the fittest" philosophy has meant doom for humans and mutants alike, and his immortality keeps him coming back again and again. Perhaps the X-Men's ultimate foe and the evil Cable trained most of his life to defeat, Apocalypse may just be indestructible.
And if he doesn't kill you, he'll make you one of his Horsemen, a fate worse than death. Just ask Angel…and Gambit…and Wolverine…ah, you get the point.
Kirkman says… "The ultimate baddie, he's been causing the X-Men trouble for years."
Ultimate Apocalypse ULTIMATE Technically, the Ultimate version of Apocalypse doesn't exist outside of the crazy ramblings of Sinister.
Before his death, Sinister said something about his master coming and being reborn. Could this be Apocalypse? All signs point to yes. Cable told Xavier that he will soon enough come face to face with something that he couldn't defeat in his own time—we smell Apocalypse.
Kirkman says… "Definitely wanted to keep the grand scale of his usual conflicts with the X-Men and, dare I say, make it grander. We'll see all corners of the universe before Apocalypse is done. A few twists coming for the reader as we go along—don't want to give them up here."
ONSLAUGHT
Onslaught OLD SCHOOL Not many villains can stand up and say "I killed every single hero in the Marvel Universe," but Onslaught has that honor!
When Professor X shut down Magneto's mind in a fit of rage, a sliver of his psyche poisoned Xavier's mind, manifesting itself as the all powerful Onslaught. To take him down, the X-Men called in the cavalry—all of it.
Everyone from the Avengers to the Fantastic Four to even Apocalypse took Onslaught on, and he made Swiss cheese out of every last one. In the end, the good guys managed to prevail, but only by—temporarily—sacrificing their own lives.
Kirkman says… "Magneto and Xavier in a giant red can together. I joke, but this guy was a [serious] baddie, taking down all of the Marvel Universe, and he did look
Ultimate Onslaught way cool."
ULTIMATE ???
Kirkman says… "Well, this one will have to stay secret for now—so I'm going with the trusty 'Wait and see!'" source: Marvel.com | |
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Mars contre attacks Celeste member
Age : 48 Localisation : Paris Date d'inscription : 12/12/2007
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Jeu 17 Jan 2008 - 12:30 | |
| J'adore Kirkman qui sait placer sous le feu des projecteurs des situations et des personnages anondins tout en les rendant exceptionnels. Ce depart me rend triste mais aussi je suis heureux de le voir peut etre debarquer sur une serie marvel | |
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Arathorn X Immortal member
Age : 36 Localisation : Entre Moselle et Alsace Date d'inscription : 08/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Ven 18 Jan 2008 - 9:08 | |
| Le must serait qu'il hérite d'un titre X-Men! Enfin bon, on peut toujours rêver lol | |
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Wolvy Spectacular member
Age : 43 Localisation : Saint-André (Nord) Date d'inscription : 09/05/2006
| Sujet: Ultimate X-Men #93 (cover) Mar 22 Jan 2008 - 18:56 | |
| It’s Robert Kirkman’s final issue of ULTIMATE X-MEN – and he’s going out with a bang! Has the worst happened? Has Apocalypse triumphed? If so, there is only one force in the universe with the power to end his iron fisted reign. But it is a power of such magnitude that its slightest misuse could bring about the end of all things! | |
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Ice Amazing member
Age : 32 Localisation : Bretagne Date d'inscription : 09/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Mar 22 Jan 2008 - 19:18 | |
| Ah ok Jean a des abdos, le truc qui casse tout L'Apocalypse Ultimate de Larroca ressemble énormément à celui qu'il avait fait sur X-Men. | |
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Geyser57 Mighty member
Date d'inscription : 09/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Mar 22 Jan 2008 - 19:19 | |
| Joli boulot de Larocca quand même. | |
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Maiki-X Spectacular member
Age : 36 Localisation : Toulouse Date d'inscription : 21/08/2006
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Mar 22 Jan 2008 - 20:26 | |
| Oulala j'aime pas du tout ! Dire que j'étais vraiment fan de Larroca.... Dommage que Kirkman quitte la série, j'adore ce qu'il fait sur ce titre. J'espère que sa dernière saga sur Apocalypse sera aussi bonne que le reste! | |
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Génome X Amazing member
Age : 33 Localisation : France Date d'inscription : 16/05/2007
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Sam 26 Jan 2008 - 15:10 | |
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Carbones Spectacular member
Age : 41 Localisation : Paris sud Date d'inscription : 25/07/2007
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Dim 27 Jan 2008 - 7:50 | |
| Sinister chez les morlocks !? Sa sent le carnage en perceptive. Ultimate Bishop est toujours aussi moche à mon avis. | |
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Arathorn X Immortal member
Age : 36 Localisation : Entre Moselle et Alsace Date d'inscription : 08/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Mer 30 Jan 2008 - 12:09 | |
| Pour moi c'est un peu tout qui est moche, et la colorisation n'aide vraiment pas. Heureusement qu'il y a le scénar' derrière. | |
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Arathorn X Immortal member
Age : 36 Localisation : Entre Moselle et Alsace Date d'inscription : 08/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Mer 30 Jan 2008 - 12:11 | |
| Apo a un losange sur le front, je pense que c'est surement Sinistre qui s'est transformé (en même temps la preview de l'épisode 90 où il a le costume d'Apo le laissait déjà supposer). | |
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Hyperion Immortal member
Age : 41 Localisation : Lille (Nord) Date d'inscription : 08/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Mer 30 Jan 2008 - 16:24 | |
| Pour moi c'est moins moche que du Paquette qu'on va maintenant devoir se farcir sur Young X-Men. Ca risque de peser sur mon appréciation de la future série... | |
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Blackbolt Amazing member
Age : 33 Localisation : Cherche Serafina. Vous l'avez-vu? Date d'inscription : 14/09/2007
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Ven 15 Fév 2008 - 14:17 | |
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Arathorn X Immortal member
Age : 36 Localisation : Entre Moselle et Alsace Date d'inscription : 08/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Mar 26 Fév 2008 - 23:05 | |
| Ouah 2 morts Bon Bishop on a son double plus jeune qu'il serait assez interressant de mettre en scène, mais Warren... Je me demende vraiment comment Kirkman va finir son run, mais ça risque d'être musclé! | |
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Hyperion Immortal member
Age : 41 Localisation : Lille (Nord) Date d'inscription : 08/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Mer 27 Fév 2008 - 0:00 | |
| - Blackbolt a écrit:
Le piou-piou est mort...... Ce n'est hélas que la contrepartie Ultimate. Dommage. | |
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Marvel Dark member
Age : 33 Localisation : Perdu dans un bordel en Inde. Date d'inscription : 24/05/2006
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S*m*a*s*h Spectacular member
Age : 35 Localisation : troyes (10) Date d'inscription : 09/05/2006
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Jeu 6 Mar 2008 - 19:08 | |
| Curieux de savoir qui sont les deux types à la fin... Un stylé Onslaught, un avec un X. L'équivalent UU des cavaliers? Ou autre chose? | |
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Blackbolt Amazing member
Age : 33 Localisation : Cherche Serafina. Vous l'avez-vu? Date d'inscription : 14/09/2007
| Sujet: Re: Ultimate X Men #90-93 (cover) Ven 7 Mar 2008 - 16:17 | |
| - S*m*a*s*h a écrit:
- Curieux de savoir qui sont les deux types à la fin... Un stylé Onslaught, un avec un X. L'équivalent UU des cavaliers? Ou autre chose?
Ya une cover apres dans un ou deux numeros ou ont voit Onslaught et Styfe | |
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